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Battle Brown Boy from the Parts Unknown
Studios Into Battle Crowd, Battle Crown,
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The Battle Round, Battle the Battle
Brown. Welcome to the Battleground Podcast,
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your place for all things pro wrestling, Little Brown, The Battle Round,
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the Battle Round now making their way
to the microphone and Sick give it up
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for your hosts, Battle Crowd.
Yeah, what's up you guys. Welcome
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back to Into iHeartRadio's official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcasting. This weekend is
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a very very big weekend for Alili
Wrestling. It's a homecoming for our guest
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today, Swerve Strickland joins this.
Swerve, how you doing, Serve?
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What's going on? Yo? I
mean walking around the battle right now?
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It's perfect weather there, of course
it's it's a homecoming from you from being
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from Tacoma where at Wrestle Dream this
Sunday out of Seattle. First things first,
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let me ask you how's your hand
after the pin attack from Hangman.
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I can't show it on camera right
now. It's too gruesome, so I'm
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just gonna leave it at bad.
You'll see. I'm probably gonna have it
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wrapped up this weekend. Yeah.
Yeah, I think there's some some payback
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coming for I see it. I
see it as a bad honor because I'm
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an agitator and he got exactly what
I wanted out of the man. So
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that was very uncharacteristic of him too. So making him break, that's that's
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a good psychological tool. That's good. Yeah, he wonted motivation, he
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found it. Absolutely, he's gonna
have the flight of his life comes Sunday
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at Wrestle Dream. And you know, this is something that's that's been great
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for the business. Twenty twenty three
has been a monster year for wrestling as
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a whole. Do you see this
year as one of the biggest of your
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career? Oh? For sure,
absolutely, just just the amount of I
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would say this year for a w
has had a lot of pressure on us,
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for sure, just like the fourth
year of the very young company that's
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still striving doing very great things.
And right now, especially with Wrestle Dream,
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a very brand new pay per view
that's being brought to the brough,
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brought to the forefront of the company
and me being one of the marquee matches
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to sell it at this point following
All In and All Out is pretty big
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and Grand Slam on top of that, So right now, this is this
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spot is really tough for us,
But man, are the fans have been
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supporting really big, you know,
and there's a lot of interest in this,
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like not too long ago, then
Tony Kahn just come out and say,
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this is the new era of a
W I truly believe that. I
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truly believe we're seeing a whole new
regime of like different waves of talent kind
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of fluctuating into a really big spot. You Like, you got your Chris
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stat Landers and Julia Harts right now
really coming into their own getting that opportunity
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on prime time television and a pay
per view title match situations. You know,
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you got Jay White like just jumping
ahead as far as like one of
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the top guys of the company and
stuff like that. You're seeing a lot
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more of the guys that have been
on top of going into the Multiman's a
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little bit more now. You're seeing
Jericho in that situation. Don Callis is
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becoming a way more of an importance
on the show. Christ Christian with the
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resurgence of a lifetime man like You're
you're just seeing so many like myself and
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the Mogul embassy not not making a
resurgence going viral. The way he does.
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You know that you're seeing this a
lot of guys are like really hungry
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and grasping for those spots, and
we're getting them, which doesn't always happen
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in a wrestling business. It's very
unforgiving and it's a lot of front like
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loopholes to jump through. You're seeing
a lot of these guys get their opportunities
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and not handed to them, but
they're earning them and you're going to see
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more. You know, there's a
lot to look forward to. And I
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don't want to jump to twenty twenty
four just yet because we still got a
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lot of meat left on the bone
with twenty twenty three. But right now
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it's very exciting, very important time
for the company, you know what I
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mean. I mean the last two
months have been incredible for wrestling. I
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mean, like I mean, I
was weird talking before we got on.
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I haven't even started Heels Season two
because I'm like, I have so much
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aw going on right now, I
can't focus on anything. But but speaking
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speaking of you know recently, you
know all in Wimbley, we were not
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too far away from that larger show
in history. You were in one of
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the most buzzed about matches. You
and Christian took on Derby and Staying coffin
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match. What was the highlight of
that match for you? And you know,
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what was it like being in a
ring with Staying and Christian. Honestly,
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I highlight me personally as my the
young wrestling fan of me came out
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of the match a little bit was
being Christian hitting double spears Darby early in
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the match. I was like,
this just happened. It happened that kind
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of moment because I grew up on
like the freaking triangle ladder matches, the
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you know, the table tlcs.
I grew up watching that and that's kind
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of what made me go and seeing
the way I did early on and you
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know, my wrestling career and stuff
like that. But that was probably with
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the not the moment that everybody talked
about as much in that match, but
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for me, that was so symbolic
for me and my childhood inner child was
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just screaming inside after that, and
then I went back into just serious mode.
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All Right, I'm here to here
to win this match, you know,
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right, I mean we are.
I mean, going back looking at
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that match, that that was a
fun match for sure. I mean,
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obviously it didn't happen the outcome and
happened the way that we were hoping it
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for you to win that night.
But you gotta think when you're sitting there
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in front of eighty thousand people,
like the biggest wrestling show to dates,
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like do Nurse kick in for a
little bit for Swerve Strickland during that match,
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or do you just think of it
as just it's this is another match
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just in a much bigger grand scheme
of face. I look at it as
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I know how to ride a bike, now I just got to ride a
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bike in front of eighty thousand people. That's why I gotta kind of like
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situated, like I know what I'm
doing. I've done this thousands of times
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in front of like fifteen people.
I've done it in front of fifteen hundred
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people. No, I've done it
in front of twenty thousand people. Never
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done in front of eighty thousand people. But it's probably the same as doing
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it in front of fifteen fifteen people. So but afterwards, after it was
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all setting done, the job was
done, we're off air, were off
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camera. You know, I'm in
the back. I can honestly be like,
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yeah, okay, now I can
feel it. But before that,
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I was just a prize fighter walk
into the ring ready for the battle.
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Yeah, it's okay again, going
back to it, It's probably been one
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of my favorite shows so far this
year that I look. So, you
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know, you continue to get some
of the loudest pops whenever AGW travels,
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and then of course now nan I
gets pops as well as dance moves.
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What do these insane reactions say about
your relationship to the audience. I feel
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like they are growing with me,
and I feel like they're understanding me more
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too. They're understanding why I'm there, what my purpose is, and but
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also they're at the edge of their
seats to know what I'm going to do.
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Right, Yeah, I mean what
I'm about to say. They don't
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know how I'm about to go about. What's like, they don't They just
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don't know. They don't. Anything
can come about, So I can be
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happy, go lucky, or I
could it could turn really really bad and
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somebody gets a center block, or
somebody gets this, or you can go
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I have such like great range of
not just emotion but probability with this character
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and with Nana there and the mobile
Embassy is always lurking somewhere and stuff like
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that, you know, And I
think that's what's good about a viewer.
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There's always it's always kind of like
tense. It's always a suspense of like
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we like, no, that's not
gonna happen, but it could. Yeah,
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right, you know, And I
think that's where the audience is understanding
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about anymore. And I think last
night, even like when Nana was coming
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down and you just did that like
that alone, just you know, you
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turned up to eat a little bit, like that's what they wanted, and
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you're like, nope, this is
my time. Like that's a perfect example
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exactly. Yeah, like you don't
know, yeah, yeah, not right
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now. So you know, talking
about when of your accolades with Keith Lee
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swerving our glory, capture the world
tag team titles, they had a very
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can they exist relationship going on in
most situations, there's a blowoff match with
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that, and we haven't really gotten
that yet. Are you still looking over
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your shoulder for Keith Lee and would
you entertain kind of a one on one
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match down road with him to kind
of settle all that. I'm still looking
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for Keith Lee. Where has he
been? So, you know, that's
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probably the best question. I'll settle. I'll settle any score anywhere it'll matter
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to me. Yeah. Like it's
almost like those fighters in boxing fights,
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so like you'll just make the fight. Make the fight. Oh, I
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mean, hey, I'm not the
I'm not the booker, I'm not the
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I'm not the guy like controlling the
money on this whole thing. Set the
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fight up. I'll be there.
Of course I might lose the way in,
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but I'll be there for the fight. You're not gonna go down without
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you know, without a fight for
sure, speaking fight, it's I mean,
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this Sunday, it's gonna be insane. We've got our very first edition
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of Wrestle Dream coming live from your
home city, your hometown, Seattle,
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and it's on pay per view.
Let me ask you this, how important
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is this match against Hangman in your
hometown? And is this a have to
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win situation for you? I feel
like I look at every matches have to
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win, but this is more of
a how can I not win situation for
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me. You know, I've elevated
in such a way that you know it's
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showing on statistics right at this point. You know, no matter how high
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you go, there's always going to
be a city. People are always gonna
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try to raise the ceiling for you
not to break through. But my still
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is my floor at this point.
And Hangman is like the perfect person that
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I needed for that, And I'm
also the perfect person that Hangman needed to
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get back in the that that that
that visual of the for the fans,
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it's like, oh, Man,
like he's this is something I've never seen
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from Hangman. And all the years, all the matches, all the promos,
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all the great stories he's been telling, this is still something new for
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him. And I think that's the
beauty of what we're both providing each other.
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Yeah, I feel like that's the
interest of the match itself. That's
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what's selling it. Like once again, you don't know what it's going to
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happen, you don't know which way
it's going to turn, you don't know
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what's going to come out. And
now we've seen what is capable of Hangman.
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What's I pulled out of him on
Wednesday night. Now it's like,
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Okay, what is he is?
That what he's going to have to try
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to keep that going into Russell Dream, I've already had that. I don't
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need that. Yeah, and like
this, this arena is way more of
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an enemy than I could ever be
too. Right, So you're essentially you're
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looking for the dog and hangman,
right, Yeah for sure, Yeah gotcha.
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So one of the promo mentions last
night, you'd mentioned becoming, uh,
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you know, the first African American
a w World heavyweight Champion. There's
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a large obviously a large fan base
that supports that. What would it mean
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to you to become the first African
American AW world champ? And what would
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you bring to the table that maybe
the current champ, MJFF doesn't. That's
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already a tough tough sell in it
as it is. I can't bring anything
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more than MJF because MJF is doing
top tier work. But what I can
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do is bring something different. I
can bring something unique that MJF can't bring.
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It's not necessarily more, but it's
unique in a different lane, you
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know what I mean. I what
I have been doing, Like as far
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as like the outside media has already
been untapped in any part of pro wrestling.
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I've there's never been any pro wrestler
inside Double XL magazine As an artist
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himself, you know, I one
of the few wrestlers. That's like red
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carpeted the Grammys. I'm one of
a few wrestlers that's actually worked with Grammy
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winning artists and producers and stuff,
you know, like bringing Rick Ross,
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like doing all these other things,
all these like I was this past weekend,
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I was in a Revote World with
Diddy, then going the following like
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a couple of days later, being
in the office with Coach Prime at Colorado.
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You know, like that's a lot
of things I'm doing without a title.
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Imagine you give me more power.
I'm imagine you give me more of
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a trophy that I can you know
how much more I can really rein it?
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You know this is already limited sources. Give me the real Now you're
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gonna give me the apple of Eden? How can I walk through this world
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with that? That's what the aw
World Championship means to me as an African
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American male, And that's that's almost
That's also very scary for a lot of
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people too. It's a lot of
there's a lot of fear in that because
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there hasn't been one yet. You
know, being in the first is always
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lot of there's a lot more judgment, there's a lot more fear. There's
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a lot more like waiting for you
to fail as well. And that's and
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I feel like that's the that's when
I bring the uniqueness too, holding that
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championship because I know I won't fail. M Right, that's a good answer,
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arrogant answer, because I mean you
talk about, like you said,
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there's a lot of pressure on you. I was there the night that Ron
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Killings our Truth won the NWA World
Heavyweight Championship. Very special moment that doesn't
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get talked about enough in my opinion, and like I was there and we've
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had him on the show talking about
that moment, and he was like when
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they first told him backstage, hey
you're going over, You're you're the champ
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tonight, and he thought they were
joking. They're like, you are the
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first African American NWA World Heavyweight Champion
out of all the years, and he's
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like, that is one of the
greatest accomplishments I've ever had this business.
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Yep. And that's just just for
that accomplishment alone in the Hall of Fame
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career. Then he went on to
do twenty more years after that, Yeah,
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yeahs and feuded with Cina, Like
you know, that's like that.
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I don't think he gets talked about
enough in that right, in that world
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right, And he's multi festa too. He does music, he can do
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comedy, he can do physical like
he's he's a multi tool he's a five
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tool player. Oh you know player, absolutely. So I want to go
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back to something you said last night
junior promo that had the Internet buzzing,
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and it was one sentence that you
said, what's a buck shot to a
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kill shot? Everybody and their moms
started flipping out on social media because you
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mentioned kill shot. Now we had
a question gets submitted to us on social
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media saying I'm sure the answer is
no, since that chapter of his career
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is over, but I'd love to
know if you would consider putting on the
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kill shot mask just one more time. And this is lead blood. You
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know I told you these you have
to be quick. Yeah, we're going
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back to, you know, being
all around different medias and stuff. You
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contendue to expand your reach over multi
medias. What is coming up for Swerve
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next in the world of music?
Do you everything you can give us some
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behind the scenes of Oh dude,
like I got two music videos dropping this
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weekend. So September thirty as the
day of Collision. That's my birthday as
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well. I have the working yeah, thank you, I have the working
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music video dropping that day. And
both of my music videos are produced and
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directed, the songs and the music
videos by Profit, the producer who won
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two Grammys with Kanye West on the
Dinned album. So so just those two
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videos, like when we shot those
three days in a row, two different
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three three different venues, all before
doing Dynamite that Wednesday, and then added
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two matches that Wednesday, that's the
one I have. That's when I kicked
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r Fox out of Mobile Embassy and
then later on that night had to face
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off against and eight and Antager gets
to see him funking them. So that's
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was the That was a busy week, and yeah, that was a busy
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That was a busy day itself.
And then so now then we did a
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cipher at three am in Atlanta,
So that's dropping October two. So we
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have September thirtieth, Marcus on your
calendars, don't forget it. September thirtieth.
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Work at music video by Swore of
the Realists feature in Fireman, who
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has a lot of writer's credits with
Chance the rapper and Kanye was currently in
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Italy right now working on Kanye's next
album Kid, so he's on the video
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and some cameos in their check for
that. Then the next night, October
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first, we have These Dreams followed
by Russell Dreams pay per view. That
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night we have These Dreams with Zombie
Juice who's part of the PLATFA Zombie speaching
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in there, Anthony King who does
the aw wrap ups every week on social
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media, and my co host my
Tz, who just performed for Samuelbara at
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Grand Slam. Oh yeah, as
my Tz is on that record as well,
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produced by Profit. That drops October
one, early in the day for
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Wrestle Dream or before Wrestle Dream.
It's called the song, it's called These
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Dreams. And then the next day, October two, we dropping the mt
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freestyle featuring myself, Anthony King,
and my Tz just a snippet of another
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mixtape working on and MS dance for
Every Move made includes the team that is
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our little trios when we get together
and we form Ultron. So all that's
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all the stuff you need to be
looking forward to YouTube dot com backs last
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Sour City podcast check on that it's
going to be in matter. I just
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subscribed hit the bell for the notifications
because it's coming your way this weekend.
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And I have to say, you
know, historically wrestlers that dabbled in music,
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it's been really wack. I mean, there's not a lot of good
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examples of quality music from wrestlers,
but you're definitely the exception, just like
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you are in the ring too,
So kudos to you on that. You
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only get better getting in the room
with better people. Thanks. A lot
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of times, music is a very
can kill your creativity if it kills your
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confidence. So if you get in
there with people that are willing to like
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let you know you're not the best
here, you're not the best at this,
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and you take that on the chin
and you build with those guys,
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you can truly grow and become actually
really good at your craft. And that's
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what I'm just working with. I'm
working with top level guys in the industry
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that are literally truly wanting me to
grow and working with you to grow.
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That's amazing, man, And you
know, it's it's an honor to have
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you on the show. I know
we talked to you last time, and
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a lot of things have changed since
the last time we talked to you,
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and you know how this show goes
on. You come on here, you
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go on to win gold. Well, you came on last time, you
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went on to win gold, you
went on to win the aw tag team
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titles. You come on now.
I believe that title above my head is
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going to be yours within the next
year. I've been staring at this entire
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interview and I'm getting hungry. I
mean, I'm not gonna say it's that
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one. I'm gonna say it's this
one that's right here. Yeah, I
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mean I kind of want yours too, Yeah, yeah, yeah, badly
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I will. I will mel it
to you and you can have it your
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and it's all yours, will swerve. It is an honor to have you
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on the show. We're looking forward
to you bringing the Dog out and hang
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Man Page and then after Sunday night
on Wrestle Dream, we're gonna hear and
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your winner is to We're frequent and
then we could see No, I'm not
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do his dance. Maybe if I
allow it, yeah maybe maybe if he's
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a if he's good, I'll allow
it. But it is my city,
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so maybe I'll treat you. I
don't know yet. We hope you enjoyed
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